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Richard Bicker's avatar

You're beating a dead horse, Bryan.

Today's (and tomorrow's) socialists are NOT those of the 20th century who were indeed responsible for its obscene butcher's bill and the penury and despair of countless millions forced to live through it. Instead, this is a NEW socialism; Democratic Socialism, by name and definition.

It is a socialism that expertly harnesses the free market to produce goods abundantly, efficiently, and perfectly in tune with consumer demand. At the same time and by general and democratic agreement, the "excesses" of capitalism are curbed, and the vast productive capacity of the system is carefully and competently managed to provide decent and satisfying lives for ALL the members of a democratic socialist society. THIS time, things will be different—you'll see...

Hissyfit's avatar

I’m quite simplistic in my thinking here. You either sign up for personal Liberty/sovereignty, or you are a collectivist. There are many flavors to this but they all result in statism. I would argue that the current occupant of the WH engages in central government planning although we call it industrial policy. “Re-on shoring” industry generally means huge giveaways at more than 50% of the “YUGE billions being invested in the world’s hottest country” that make the worst asset sale by a large urban center look sane. Government should not be picking winners and losers as the market does it far better. Buying shares in at least ten major corporations at a share that could impact BOD policies, I see as nationalization. As for democratic socialism being “something new,” I disagree. The Frankfurt School were Marxist retreads in their Critical Theory. Keynes was a means of making Fabian socialism palatable to the masses.

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