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Eric Darwin's avatar

In Canada there is outcry about children being adopted from one group into another, eg indigenous by white parents, Haitians or Chinese by white parents. There are lawsuits and government reparations for cultural genocide and appropriation. Each year brings a new victim climbing onto the cross to publicize their crucifixion experience and trauma and demanding ...something, usually lots of money.

I am so old I remember when we celebrated that , say, catholic orphans could be adopted by Jews or protestants and then brought up in their new parents religion. Then we "progressed" to adoptive parents being reduced to some sort of long term care givers but open to losing their children who could drift back to their birth mother if they felt so inclined. Parental authority thus dropped to zero. In recent years a whole other wedge has been driven by the "gender is a choice " crowd. Courts feel free to deny parent access in these disputes, schools instruct children to lie to their parents or deceive other children's parents.

I don't think parents overtly weigh these sorts of things in the excitement of adoption/deciding to get pregnant. But there is an overall tone that the state is intruding into more and more parental decision making. No longer is intervention limited to abuse in the old fashioned sense.

Parenting may be more attractive when parents have more rights [not absolute!] . As a society we need to celebrate and promote parenting and families in all social classes.

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Chartertopia's avatar

There are some really bizarre laws around American Indians, especially children. A hypothetical man with 1/1024 Cherokee blood enrolls in the tribe to honor his dead father but does nothing further. He marries a Chinese woman, they have a kid, ask some Chinese friends to adopt her if they should die, they do, their friends try to adopt her, but the Indian Child Welfare Act says his tribal membership gives the Cherokee tribe first dibs, they decline, but the Navajo tribe gets next dibs, and they demand she be adopted by Navajos to preserve her Indian heritage.

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/11/10/why-the-indian-child-welfare-act-is-unconstitutional/

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Julian Tryst's avatar

Interesting talk. Would've been better if Bryan would just let the other guy finish his sentences before he starts answering.

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Ian Fillmore's avatar

I don’t know whether you talked about foster parenting. Connects to adoption, but with a distinct set of issues.

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D Carroll's avatar

In the US, international adoption was mostly shut down, initially by the left but then finished off by the right. The left was opposed to cultural appropriation, while the right didn't like bringing brown kids into the US. The fear by indigenous and minority groups is well grounded given, historically, that the removal of children was not always voluntary or justified. However, Trump's first term brought in a left wing activist finish it off. The pretext was corruption, which was a very real problem (involuntary removal and deception), but also misunderstood and fixable (due to lack of safeguards and weak institutions, not racially or culturally motivated). Adoptive parents were not normally blamed, at least domestically in the US, though cherry-picked narratives do not always paint adoptive parents in a positive light. Most of the quantitative research I've seen suggest most transracial and transcultural adoptions work out fine, but it is more complicated and failures do exist. Often adoptive kids have been traumatized, even in the womb, and that impacts their mental health. My adoptive kids are nothing like me or each other, and that requires some creativity on my part, but they are doing exceptionally well. So far so good.

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