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Andy G's avatar
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“…but most Americans are well-prepared for their futures even ignoring Social Security.”

Grrrrr..

I’m with you on *so* much of what you wrote here, but this claim is whack. Bryan is just awful on the math here, and deserves to be taken to the woodshed.

The idea that a median couple with $400K (mostly in home equity) total wealth and no Social Security is well prepared at 65 for a retirement that could last 30 years is just a failure of Bryan to do basic math.

A reverse mortgage rather than selling the house and moving into a cheaper rental shows even less basic math common sense, because it means home overconsumption and even less cash to pay for all other life expenses.

Even if we went beyond the 4% rule and used a 5% spending rate - and assumed said median household knew optimal portfolio allocation - you really want to claim that the average couple at retirement is “well-prepared” living on $20K per year?!?

And it would be much, much less than $20K if based on a reverse mortgage.

And all of the above is separate from the fact that the only reason Bryan can make the sketchy claim he does about “most” is because of government-provided Medicare, which is the real program bankrupting the country that is in far, far worse shape than Social Security.

I don’t claim to have all the answers, and I agree with Bryan on so much else here, but this claim about “most” being fine if Social Security vanished tomorrow is just… whack awful math.

[Addendum: ChatGPT tells me that a reverse mortgage on a $400K house would generate only about $12,000 annually in real income for a 65 year old couple entering into such a contract. (Yes in reality not all of the assets are home equity, so median reality would be a little better than what the $12K suggests. But the point stands.) Even without a mortgage to pay, the idea that said median Americans are “well-prepared for their futures even ignoring Social Security” don’t hunt.]

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Agree with everything you said, but I always have felt the major missing component here is the value of a year-of-life.

This is where the young are infinitely more wealthy than the old. You can do the math around a set of discounted QALYs to actually calculate this or you could just intuitively think about it - how much of their "net worth" would a 70 year old offer to be 20 again? This becomes particularly salient if you think about the longevity advances we are about to see. Any rational 70 year old deca-millionaire would give up almost every dollar to be a 20 year old again in 2026.

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