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Fedor Rybochkin's avatar

As a Russian citizen myself I definitely agree

Even if you aren’t willing to let quote unquote ordinary people in, you may drastically increase the amount of high quality visas to suck out all Russian/Chinese/Iraqi/etc clever workers or newgrads

It doesn’t cost much to do but your economy will be happy afterwards

That’s, btw, the reason why Armenian economy grew like 12% last year and IT sector in Armenia grew twice in the same period. Ton of Russians employed on their highly selective IT jobs in Russian companies either work remotely from countries that are happy to get some foreign tax money or move their companies to those countries.

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Brian Moore's avatar

And you might as well go crazy with patriotic PR around it too. I get that perhaps Armenia may not want to go all out on crowing about "look at all these smart and talented Russians coming to our obviously better country!" but there's no reason that the US shouldn't. Every case of that is another example of A) why "our" side is better and B) why average citizens in the "other" country should recognize that our enemy is not those average citizens.

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Fedor Rybochkin's avatar

I (guess why) personally dislike when governments are using poor people / bad circumstances to seize even more societal virtue credits, but yeah, in that case it seems like it is at least somewhat instrumentally rational to brag about clever people who move to US with the goal being “convincing others to do so as well”

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Stephen Grossman's avatar

Intstrumental rationality is dependent upon the end. The effective Nazi death camps were irrational.

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Brian Moore's avatar

Sure, I mean it's definitely propaganda, but as a form of inter-state competition, I think it's much better (both in effect and morally) than war, trade wars, saber-rattling or most of the other techniques usually employed.

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Fedor Rybochkin's avatar

Well sort of yeah, but I mostly believe that almost all “west” governments are much more concerned about inner stuff, then about some weirdos in some other country

So I don’t really know whether it’s higher or lower on relative propaganda’s ugliness scale than the median

But I guess you should know better :)

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Brian Moore's avatar

oh, you're absolutely correct, for almost all purposes (at least in the US, where I am, but I assume it's true most everywhere) foreign countries only exist for most people as symbols to support their domestic agendas. If an American politician/citizen could do something that improved the effectiveness of our diplomacy or foreign policy, but would lose them support/votes at home, they'd wouldn't even consider it.

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