This is not the ruleset of the Landlords Game. In Lizzie Magie’s version, each property has a base land rent. When a house is constructed, there’s a house rent on top. So far, it’s the same. In Landlords game tho, when all three properties in a set have at least one house, the land rent is doubled. House rent is kept constant. When all three properties have 2 houses, land rent is doubled again. When all three properties have 3 houses, land rent is doubled again. House rent remains constant (per house, up to 3 houses).
Anyway, I’m a Georgist and so I disagree with your conclusion in other ways on Georgism, but I did just want to clear up this bit about Lizzie Magies ruleset.
I wonder if there's a way to get an AI to try playing different versions of the game with different rules, and render a judgement on whether a given set of rules produces a "fun" game.
Wouldn't a Georgist tax in monopoly function more like paying the bank periodically for a fraction of the value of the property you own? If you had to pay $(Hotel Rent/20) every time you cross Go, it would incentivize housebuilding to recoup those taxes, and disincentivize hoarding of unimproved property.
So the Georgist-taxable value of a plot of land is the value it would have if there were no improvements on it, but all the improvements elsewhere still existed. Now, suppose we divide a plot into two. The Georgist-taxable value of the whole plot will generally *not* be the sum of the G-t values of the two halves. And, I suspect, there are other anomalies in the Georgist system.
It would be interesting to play a revamped Monopoly game that more reflected actual costs to build as well as actual rents and taxes in a real-world situation. I used to own a Simpsons-themed Monopoly game that had a little basic computer that calculated banker stuff - how hard to update that and sell a more interesting version?
This is not the ruleset of the Landlords Game. In Lizzie Magie’s version, each property has a base land rent. When a house is constructed, there’s a house rent on top. So far, it’s the same. In Landlords game tho, when all three properties in a set have at least one house, the land rent is doubled. House rent is kept constant. When all three properties have 2 houses, land rent is doubled again. When all three properties have 3 houses, land rent is doubled again. House rent remains constant (per house, up to 3 houses).
Anyway, I’m a Georgist and so I disagree with your conclusion in other ways on Georgism, but I did just want to clear up this bit about Lizzie Magies ruleset.
I wonder if there's a way to get an AI to try playing different versions of the game with different rules, and render a judgement on whether a given set of rules produces a "fun" game.
Humans will be needed still for a long time to accurately mark things as fun or unfun.
Maybe. I wonder if AIs can learn what's "fun". If they can, it'd be a boon to game design - just try lots of rules variations and see what works.
I wasn't meaning they can't learn what is fun, but that humans will remain the final test for things like that.
Wouldn't a Georgist tax in monopoly function more like paying the bank periodically for a fraction of the value of the property you own? If you had to pay $(Hotel Rent/20) every time you cross Go, it would incentivize housebuilding to recoup those taxes, and disincentivize hoarding of unimproved property.
This. That's exactly how I thought it would be.
So the Georgist-taxable value of a plot of land is the value it would have if there were no improvements on it, but all the improvements elsewhere still existed. Now, suppose we divide a plot into two. The Georgist-taxable value of the whole plot will generally *not* be the sum of the G-t values of the two halves. And, I suspect, there are other anomalies in the Georgist system.
The price of the book on Kinde today is quite a bit higher...
Maybe Common Ground is the game Bryan is looking for. https://unitism.com/learn/game
It would be interesting to play a revamped Monopoly game that more reflected actual costs to build as well as actual rents and taxes in a real-world situation. I used to own a Simpsons-themed Monopoly game that had a little basic computer that calculated banker stuff - how hard to update that and sell a more interesting version?
The doubling with all the same colour would increase the Georgist tax I think.