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And of course, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Which is to say that it is likely that if Russia were to make a similar offer to Ukrainian solders, very few of whom are willingly in uniform, and many of whom are from eastern, Russian-speaking, parts of Ukraine, they might lose more soldiers than the Russians, who also have a much larger pool to draw from. And as I understand it, the vast majority of the Russian solders are volunteers (with a big signing bonus, but still...), whereas in Ukraine they are capturing men as they try to flee across the borders into their European neighbors to avoid military service, and sending them to the front.

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I agree that the arguments being offered are terrible.

Bribes for desertion is currently offered for Russians but isn't really working. Either because they believe in the cause or they find the prospect of desertion too risky. There was a recent high profile case where a Russian helicopter pilot defected for a large payout. Since he two co-pilots were unwilling to defect they were killed. His family disowned him, and Russian agents tracked him down in Spain and murdered him.

But let me make an alternate proposal. We should pay Ukranian soldiers to desert. Unlike Russian soldiers, who maintain a high % of volunteers, the Ukranian army is almost entirely conscripts many abducted against their will. The current fee to get a false medical exemption is $5k, but many can't afford it. While we can't guarantee the safety of Russian defectors and their families, we could easily guarantee the safety of Ukranian defectors and their families. Giving them EU passports is obviously well within out power, and most would jump at the chance. The Ukranian government, unlike the Russian government, could be forced to give people freedom of choice on the matter.

It is likely that we could cause enough Ukranian soldiers to defect for their armed resistance to collapse, which would end the war. Further, it would discredit the war (and most American foreign policy). If the Ukranian's really are slave soldiers who would jump at the chance to escape to the EU given the choice then the existence of Ukraine as a country we should be defending is discredited.

Maybe I'm wrong and they will all refuse, but any libertarian ought to support at least trying. At a minimum succeed or fail we would get a window into the revealed preferences of Ukrainian soldiers, which seems important for determining how to conduct the war.

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