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Samuel Haak's avatar

I fully agree with Michael - the burning IVF clinic (or building with a random box of embryos in it) scenario is a complete non sequitur. What if instead it was a choice between two babies, but only one of them is yours? Would that prove that the other child doesn't have 'sufficient' moral worth, and therefore we should be open to it being legal for their mother to kill them? Of course not.

Or what if it was 2 babies, one of whom you had met a few times before? I wager that most people would save the one they recognise, even if they have no familial obligations. Does that mean we can kill the other one? Cousin vs aunt? Bryan Caplan vs Michael Crone? They're all non sequiturs.

BONUS: what if the choice was between a baby and the last 500 fertilised embryos on earth (for which artificial wombs had been fully prepared elsewhere), and you and the baby are the same sex and are the last remaining born humans on earth? Would you choose the baby and let humanity end, or the embryos and keep the human race alive? Again, if somebody chooses the embryos, does that mean the baby's parents should be legally allowed to kill it?

I do not mean to be too harsh, especially since I really like Bryan. However given that he seems to be trying to stake out some 'middle ground' position on bringing death to masses of innocent human beings, I believe the ridicule is wholly justified.

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Thank you both on this, good read and response. I especially found the Malawi framing novel and never thought about it that way. And I'm not even a secular pro-lifer, in fact I'm a legamoron spiteful pro-choicer to the point I'm legally ok with abortion up until the seventy-first trimester though morally I'm a religious pro-lifer.

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