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Shivers's avatar

People love to trot out this argument when arguing against utilitarianism. "See? When we follow utilitarianism, we end up in this dystopian nightmare world where doctors kill you to save strangers." To me, it seems absurd that something many people would describe as a "dystopian nightmare world" would ever maximize utility. And so perhaps killing one man to give his organs to save five others is not actually utilitarian, when you consider the long run.

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Dagon's avatar

Why does nobody ever mention the bargaining/probabalistic option here? don't kill the healthy person, get agreement among the sickly to roll dice among themselves for who dies a day early so the others can live.

You have two (A and B) with healthy heart and kidneys, but no usable lungs. two (C and D) with bad kidneys but healthy lungs and heart. and one (E) with healthy kidneys and lungs, but needs a heart. Solutions:

Kill E, others all live.

Kill any two others, the 3 remaining live.

Set the odds so that ALL 5 agree that they prefer to gamble rather than not. Roll the dice, kill the losers.

Nothing involuntary needed here.

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