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I think you might be missing a few points here that I believe are important:

the US is the largest country with English as the first and official language. And most first worlders speak English well enough to work in English. Sure, everyone in Scandinavia speaks English, but to really integrate you still need to speak the local language.

The snarky comment you mentioned about the US really being first world: I'm in my 3rd year of a temporary move to NYC and am constantly shocked by how terrible the infrastructure is in this country. In fact, it's so bad, that I am reminded of my trips into much less developed countries.

And thirdly, you speak about recently developed suburbs of Europe reproducing the older suburbs of the US. I'm reading your comment as inferring what is as a direct line to what people want. But just because that's how it turned out it doesn't that's what people actually want. It might just be what ended up happening as a local maximum. The US suburbs are financially held afloat by the wealth generated in the - as you say - "crammed" urban centers and aren't sustainable: neither economically nor environmentally.

Additionally I would like to ask what you mean by "When Americans experience the inconvenience of Europe" ?

I've never lived in a less convenient place than the US. Every government system I interact with seems to be actively hostile and in the best case needlessly cumbersome (and I'm from Germany: not a place known for little bureaucracy!). On top of that the aforementioned infrastructure is so bad that everyday things like public transit, quality of built of basically everything from furniture to buildings, up to long distance travel is so cumbersome that I do wonder why I'm here.

Lastly you mention Texas: Low taxes and cheap living sure does attract a lot of people. But in a race to the bottom with low taxes nobody wins, unless you want to argue for privatizing everything, of course.

I've read a lot of your stuff and this is the first time you seem to be too infatuated with the US to think a bit deeper about what might be going on here and disagree pretty fundamentally with you.

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K.'s avatar

Interesting!

I think Ilya Somin's idea was that in foot voting people behave more rational and get informed.

I also thought about countries to move. The US's GDP/capita is attractive. Switzerland, Ireland etc. can keep up. Other indices seem less in favour of the US (see e.g. Freedomhouse). E.g. Germany seems attractive for its apparent moral development (openness to immigrantion, less military adventures, certain liberalizations) and thus taxes seem to cause less harm there. The US seems to respect certain rights more (free speech/hearing, self-defense). I wonder what movers in the poll care about most and whether they are informed about conditions in less popular „fringe“ countries like e.g. Ireland, Denmark, Slovenia etc.

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