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John Hall's avatar

"But my obvious-once-you-think-about mechanism implies an extra point of leverage: undermine the norm against students having babies."

Or, undermine the norm that having a lot of education is needed for most people in the labor market.

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I don't know that I've seen it explicitly discussed in anything academic, but I feel like there's been plenty of discussion about the mechanism of extending the time to complete education de facto extending the time before trying to get pregnant?

But I don't think the issue is the stigma against having kids before finishing education. I think it's mainly about money. There is a stigma against getting married before finishing your bachelor's degree, which basically has the same effect as a stigma against having babies when paired with the stigma against having babies out of wedlock. I do think the stigma against getting married before a bachelors degree is largely that it's associated with low status, but I think part of the way it became low status is the stigma against proposing to a wife that you can't financially support. We had one friend that got married before their senior year of college and everybody was just flabbergasted that they were married and still being supported by their parents.

But being married in graduate school is much less uncommon. Outside of medical students, I don't think there is an educational track that can credibly claim that it actually gets easier to manage kids time-wise after starting a job. People that want kids should, absent money concerns, want to have kids in grad or professional school when it will be easier. But they don't, partly because how are they going to pay for daycare while their in school? And probably a bigger part of the money thing is that people want to enjoy a few years with money before they have the responsibility of kids. It was pretty common in our circle of friends to go on a pretty big trip or two in the last year before trying to get pregnant, knowing that it may be years before they can do certain types of trips again.

And the people in our social circle that had kids immediately after finishing school (or sometimes in school if it was medical or law school), were uniformly well off with parents willing and able to help not just financially but with watching kids. Having kids just would not impact their lifestyle the same way, so there wasn't a reason to wait for them and plenty of reasons to have kids sooner (e.g., younger and healthier grandparents to help babysit).

This is actually bad news because I think the only way to really address this is to reduce credentialism and encourage people to finish school earlier. Changing any perceived stigma about having kids before completing education won't address the money issues.

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