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Michael Sebastian's avatar

Bryan, thanks for this post. I’m near the end of my career as an internal medicine doctor (first few years) and an anesthesiologist (last three decades). Safety-ism does indeed pervade the profession. It’s a weird combination of paternalism, innumeracy, and some fear of malpractice litigation, though that’s more often used as a post-hoc justification for lazy thinking and for the other silly things we do.

It’s odd; paternalism is officially “out“. We are these days supposed to offer patients our advice, and let them choose (which is often absurd, given the massive knowledge gap), yet we are still paternalistic about the least important stuff. And don’t forget that a number of our specialty societies (looking at you, pediatricians) have decided that their brief is social activism dressed up as “advocating for our patients”.

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Zamua's avatar

i’m a little confused here. my understanding is:

- tetanus can be treated even if unvaccinated

- given you are exposed to tetanus and unvaccinated, you will experience uncomfortable/painful symptoms even if you don’t die

- a vaccinated person when exposed to tetanus will not experience symptoms

- given they don’t experience symptoms, the medical system will have no knowledge of this, so those cases are underreported

your argument seems to hinge on the cost of a bad day from vaccination outweighing statistical seconds of lifespan, but doesn’t take into account benefit of preventing symptoms even if you don’t die

presumably you agree there is a mechanism by which tetanus can harm you and that there is a mechanism by which the vaccine prevents that harm. if you’re taking the outside view and looking at some stats, then i think the stats would likely not adequately capture the harms

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