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Peter Gerdes's avatar

Those features aren't great, but this kind of criticism shouldn't be given too much weight since not only can make similar criticisms about virtually all activist political movements it's also particularly vulnerable to ideological bias.

When we think of political movements/identities that feel close to our own the distinctions feel very salient to us and the idea that the advocate of conservative leaning economic policy has any obligation to signal their differences with right wing huanta's seems silly. When we think of our own politics we think of particularly policy views so it seems unfair to consider the risk that in winning our policies open up the door to further extremism on our side of the aisle.

On the other hand, when we look further afield we tend to see the similarities not differences between the groups on the other side and rather than thinking of views as a particular set of policy positions we think of it as a movement and thus tend to hold any member of that movement accountable for the extreme views on that side or where people who resemble them might take the country.

I'm not saying the concerns have no truth to them but I suspect it's a kind of argument that's more prejudicial than probative.

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John Chittick's avatar

Sweden, with a greater percentage of private land ownership than the US and with a much more regressive tax system, enjoys a work ethic much less responsive to and motivated by fiscal incontinence. Through taxes, everyone has a stake in the game. It is a welfare state, but one that does a much better job of paying as you go as their debt to GDP is 1/4 that of the US. Using Mussolini's definition, like virtually all modern states, save North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba, economic fascism better describes them than socialism although the differences allow for overlap (what isn't overtly state-owned and operated tends to be state controlled and regulated which describes all western welfare states).

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