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Rob F.'s avatar

I do think one thing that libertarians need to contend with a bit more seriously is the obvious tension pointed out here.

Entrepreneurs have built out huge companies based on serving all the classic biblical vices. Gluttony, Envy, Lust, Gambling, Sloth, Drugs & Alcohol, etc. The availability & quality of indulging in those vices has gone way up, the cost has gone way down. As a high conscientious individual, the maximum-liberty standpoint is very compatible with me. But it obviously has serious deleterious impact on a large portion of society, especially once any social pressure has disappeared to avoid them. The result is a population that is less productive, more unhealthy, more unhappy. It's like the narrative behind the fall of Rome.

How does libertarianism address this problem?

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Glen Raphael's avatar

The claim that “anyone can get thin by making different choices” was nonsense until the introduction of GLP-1 drugs. NOW it’s at least plausible - or will be as drugs in that category proliferate and cost comes down. The fact that most people can easily lose weight by making the “different choice” to take a drug that changes their setpoint confirms there exist biological processes which affect it.

It seems plausible that most people *could have been* thin by making different choices but once they get fat that screws up the metabolism in ways such that the body wants to keep the fat it already has - losing weight is harder than gaining it so weight tends to ratchet up over time absent heroic effort of will to avoid temptation, hunger and general food obsession…or trivial application of Tirzepatide to make the food noise go away.

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