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Jonas's avatar

Yea, I've also been to Malaysia. I remember seeing a muslim couple where the girl is wearing a hijab and the guy is grabbing her butt, in public.

Nonetheless, I found that Malaysia had kinda a "sad vibe". People didn't smile much. People didn't seem happy. I also noticed that Sharia law applied. For example, on bars, you would see signs that said: "Must be 21+ and non-muslim".

As you are probably also aware, there is a kind of affirmative action for the Muslim Malay majority. They are preferred for spaces at universities (I met many Chinese Malysians studying in Singapore probably for this very reason!), they get discounts on land, business ventures must have at least one Muslim Malay partner, etc. This system kinda holds Malaysia back and I believe it was one of their major disagreements with Singapore. Hence why Singapore is a separate country today. (And much more economically successful!)

But contrast Malaysia with Indonesia. They speak almost the same language and Indonesia is actually 87% muslim (more than Malaysia) but Indonesia is a lot poorer (they have got their own problems). However... Indonesian Muslims are much more "chill" than Malaysian Muslims. For example, I rarely saw the hijab and when I did it (for example, on a televised concert), was often loose and didn't cover all the girl's hair (Muslim cleavage? Haha). Also, I remember reading an article about an alcohol shortage in Indonesia. They had a state-run corporation that imported alcohol. A spokesman for the company said they based the quantities on the numbers of tourists and non-muslims. Then, they interviewed a bar owner who said: "well, there you go! That's the problem right there! Most of my customers are Muslims!" Hahaha!

And generally, I found Indonesians were happier than Malaysians. Despite being a lot poorer. Honestly, Indonesians seemed a lot more like Filipinos than Malaysians.

Sir, if you get the opportunity, you should visit Indonesia. (And Philippines while you're at it!)

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Marcus Williamson's avatar

I don't think you are far off the mark. Although as you say it is difficult to strip out the capital city effect. Kabul was a lot more moderate seeming than Herat or Jalalbad!

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