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Kevin's avatar

This is just thoroughly who Mandela was, though. The Communists were only a small part of it, he supported a lot of violent groups. But isn’t that kind of what you would expect for someone searching for any possible way to defeat apartheid?

He was able to be a reconciliation figure essentially because: 1. he was acceptable to the white minority and the international community because he was in jail for so long and thus was not directly associated with recent violence but 2. he had credibility among the (violence-supporting) majority because he had a past of supporting many of the affiliated groups.

source: the great Jonny Steinberg book

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I generally am in tune with many of the things you say about science but here I think that is a bit of an OTT historical conclusion regarding Mandela's membership of the CP in the context of the times and his journey to political maturity.

By the standard you are setting one should not join the US Army (Amongst other examples because of The School of the Americas training camps which taught dictators in South America to suppress their populations, the effect of the Realpolitik of Kissinger in Cambodia, etc & from the point of view of the people involved in the battle of Mosul who might have a different opinion about the collateral damange on the locals).

One could say the same about joining the British Army (Given the way it acted in its colonies, Cromwell was decidedly NOT a hero if you were to ask an Irishman), etc,etc.

You might then argue about scale but is that really the distinction you want to draw here?

It's still a case of living in a glass house chucking stones....

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