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einrv's avatar

What drives me nuts in this debate is that the US already has a universal basic income. It’s called Social Security.

Granted, it doesn’t take effect until you’re ~65, and there are some (fairly minor) restrictions. But it’s the closest thing we’ve got.

It’s also the largest item on the federal budget, soon to be bankrupt, and (from my personal observations) disincentivizes work and encourages early retirement, as well as a general attitude of entitlement from the government.

You could say that it’s not a very well designed program, but that’s the point. You don’t get to decide how a UBI is implemented, the existing federal government does.

Chris is effectively promoting that we get rid of the one saving grace of social security (the age limit), and promises that all of the clearly bad and negative consequences that we see with the existing system will just go away.

I find this highly implausible.

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Are people poor because they don't have money or are they poor because they weren't raised properly to want and know how to provide for themselves? If you believe it's mostly the latter, UBI would help entrench and perpetuate the problem for generations to come. And UBI would foster an entitlement mentality: society owes me a living.

Once that mentality is in place, the amount is never enough. There will be constant conflict to ratchet it up. And almost nothing destroys people and societies as quickly as entitlement and dependency.

The current system has at least some features to treat assistance as a temporary safety net. That's a good thing.

Instead of UBI, why not increase the earned income tax credit and cut further on programs for the able-bodied but not working?

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