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Richard Y Chappell's avatar

So perhaps a clearer three-way partition (assuming that basically all significant environmental influences are themselves influenced by family environment) would be:

1. Heredity

2. Family-influenced environment

3. Random noise

I guess it shouldn't be surprising that there's a fair element of randomness in how we turn out.

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Mark's avatar

This seems like a semantic complaint rather than a substantive one. Harris’s position might be summarized (I’m guessing) as: taking family environment as given, the coefficient on peer effects’ influence on outcome is A; taking peer environment as given, the coefficient of family environment on outcome is B. A >> B.

Even your contention that family environment determines peer group (again, it’s a purely semantic criticism. When people are talking about family environment, choosing where or in what subculture to raise their kids isn’t what they have in mind) can be flipped: your decision to raise your kids in an orthodox Jewish community is determined more by the fact that you grew up around orthodox Jewish peers. Peer effects therefore determine family environment. Thinking about it intergenerationally, it’s arbitrary of course which one is said to cause the other, basically a chicken or egg question. Which is why it’s only meaningful to compare the two in the sense of comparing which has a higher coefficient on outcome controlling for the other one.

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