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Dan Klein's avatar

Interesting post, thanks.

Bryan writes: "suppose human beings had real, honest-to-goodness free will".

What work is "free" doing?

Consider the statement without that word:

"suppose human beings had real, honest-to-goodness will".

How would that statement differ from the one Bryan actually wrote?

I might ask the same about "real."

And then about "honest-to-goodness".

We get:

"suppose human beings had will".

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Maxim Lott's avatar

>> “You can know with overwhelming certainty that I won’t shave my head tomorrow; it doesn’t change the fact that I could shave my head tomorrow.”

If someone mapped out every neuron in your brain, and knew perfectly how neurons work, and also knew the details of what you’d interact with today, then they should be able to predict with certainty whether you’d shave your head to show yourself you have “free will.” That’s based on what we know about how every other piece of matter interacts deterministically or randomly.

If that is true (which is theoretically, but not practically, testable) then your actions would be predetermined and you wouldn’t have true “free will.”

The good news is that your brain is *still the mechanism making the decision* (even it’s predetermined by the laws of physics etc) and as a result, not having free will need not change views on morality at all.

The fact that non-gene, non-family factors have an impact on outcomes (which I’d expect a priori) seems a red herring to me.

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