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I think, for a lot of libertarians or "libertarian~ish" people like myself, you gotta ask: freedom to do hwhat?

A lot of libertarians have their pet causes and glaring exceptions.

Mine are free speech and being pro-life, respectively.

I understand the libertarian position on drugs, but drugs are not my cup of tea. I'm not against the legalization of drugs but it's not my hill to die on. I am not gonna uproot my family to move to Oregon or Portugal, because they have laxer regulations on a hobby that I don't even partake in!

I think all of the US has relatively good free speech. Even in blue states. Moreso than any other "normal" country.

I don't see other libertarian causes being really championed by any other state/country that I would, personally, benefit from...

* Hong Kong WAS nice but not anymore.

* Prospera seems promising but I worry about the future of ZEDEs.

* The UAE has relatively low taxes. But limited free speech. And you better not start a business that competes with a Sheik's business!

* Milei is doing necessary cuts in the size of government in Argentina. But it still has a long way to go. It's getting better. But it's still not great again. If I lived there, I fear I wouldn't make much money, or, at least, would not be able to afford a decent standard of living.

* Tanzania had lax Covid restrictions, but incomes are low and Covid is over, anyway. Besides, mostly, my life was back to normal after I got fully vaxxed in July 2021. It sucked for the unvaxxed. But, not my hill to die on.

I noticed a pattern... Given the opportunity, I am willing to uproot my life to move somewhere where MY rights are not being trampled. But, for others, like drug aficionados, the pre-born and the unvaxxed, I will use my voice to fight for their rights in my current jurisdiction, but I will not necessarily move to somewhere where their rights are not being trampled, just in solidarity with them.

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I'm thinking a lot of my own life, here. I am mindful of my privacy so bare with me, if I'm a lil cryptic with some of my details.

I live on the border between 2 provinces in Canada. I work in the public sector. It is one of the biggest employers in my area and I have a decent job with them. I live in the province with lower taxes. One of my employees lives in the high-tax province and I keep trynna convince him to come to the "dark side". Haha. But that province also has cheaper electricity, car insurance, water and housing, along with subsidized day care. Part of the reason the low-tax province has lower taxes is because of more fiscal restraint. We don't really have subsidized day care, for example. But part of the reason is simply cause we have more public debt per capita.

If my employee had 3 kids, electric heating, 2 cars, a working wife and a house, maybe I would tell him to stay in the high-tax province, cause it would be cheaper for him. I'd imagine some of y'all would be like: "NO! You should always choose the province with lower taxes/less government out of principle!" But isn't libertarianism all about letting individuals pursue their own self-interest is better? Are you really gonna blame someone for pursuing their own self-interest?

Could I move to an even lower tax province? Yea, sure. But the housing is not much cheaper, if cheaper at all. The jobs in my field are not super plentiful and the weather is prolly worse.

I recently married an American who lives in the Bay Area. We decided that I would join her in the US, rather than the other way around. I think there are plenty of job opportunities in the Bay Area and they pay well. Especially considering that the low value of the Canadian Dollar. Also, the US is generally more free than Canada. Especially hwhen it comes to free speech. Canada is over-doing it with "Bubble Zones". It started with abortion clinics but it's gotten really out of hand. Yes, I am aware free speech isn't perfect in the US, either. But Americans value free speech more. Especially, in the long term, I see the US as having MUCH more free speech than Canada. Canadians don't value free speech the way Americans do. They like their bubble zone laws. I don't much like my fellow Canadians.

If I could, I would prefer to live in Austin: lower taxes, cheaper houses and pro-life. But my wife is kinda settled in the Bay Area and wants to stay there. I want us to, at least, visit Texas. But come to think of it maybe the wages are that much higher in the Bay Area to compensate for the higher taxes and maybe it's good to live in a "pro-choice" state. More people who need their minds changed!

I wouldn't really live in Florida. It seems like hwhere old people go to die. And it doesn't necessarily strike me as "free" just anti-woke. Like didn't Governor De Santis make it illegal for cruise lines to ask for proof of vaccination? That doesn't sound very free market to me! I think a lot of cruise passengers are elderly and they would be afraid of going cruising again in the early post-vaxx days. It should be up to companies and consumers to choose vaxx policies. Not the government!

I wouldn't wanna live in New Hampshire. It's almost as cold as Canada. If I could live in the US, living in a warmer climate is much more important to me than hwhat? Being able to ride a motorcycle without a helmet? I don't even ride motorcycles!

I think Prospera looks promising. But I'd have to get a job there and convince the Mrs. So far, I've convinced her to visit there with me. I think some of their promotional videos featured a pre-existing luxury on Roatan that joined them cause of the lower taxes. I think that helped! Haha.

I got so much more to say, but I gotta get back to work!

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