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Great chapter. I have always struggled to reconcile the reasonableness of, and seemingly historically correct, Austrian perspective that Keynes’ system fails to account for stagflation and a few other empirical facts, with the fact that it has persuaded nearly every working economist. Why does the mainstream hold onto so much of Keynes system throughout any and all failures of it? I am not persuaded that Mises wasn’t translated early enough, and then Keynes took over and no one ever looked back and we got paradigm lock-in. That seems a bit too conspiratorial. I also feel there are enormous incentives to be the first scholar to prove Keynes wrong using ANY perspective, not just Austrian. The Austrians have had moments of fame and appreciation by big figures, it seems unlikely that nobody ever read Mises and that’s the problem. I guess though I just don’t understand why the field as a whole has always been Keynesian and kind of just sweeps under the rug the inability to square its theories with what the world actually shows us. What do the mainstream keynesians know that I don’t? Even the frontier models of heterogeneous agents still cling to a fair bit of Keynesian baggage. So what’s the real explanation for the Keynesian ascendancy and its ability to withstand falsification?

The other thing I wondered about reading this chapter is whether or not we don’t have enough data nowadays to test wether capital goods actually rise/fall in proportion to consumer goods in the way the Austrian theory predicts. Rothbard makes it seem like this would be a very easy and palpable way to prove or disprove the theory. He states repeatedly that capital goods rising during the boom and then collapsing during the bust (and vice versa for consumption goods), and this is a plain as day fact. Seems like something we could actually look at the data for nowadays.

The only time I have wondered about the paradigm lock-in perspective is when Greg Mankiw wrote on his blog that he has never read any Austrian and never will bc he holds a whigg view that someone else already has, so everything good is in the textbooks already and everything bad has been set aside. But he writes the textbooks, so shouldn’t he be one reading the Austrians?

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Don’t we literally just go through a cycle during Covid were we got zero interest rates, businesses and individuals way over invested in ZIRP models, and then when inflation spiked and rates went back up it caused a huge dislocation? Like this was really dramatic in recent memory.

Wasn’t the housing crisis in the 2000s kind of similar.

Like, people and business really are that stupid that they get hoodwinked by easy money.

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