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Saw the movie last night, I (humbly) think you are missing the deeper message in the movie, which (at least from my perspective) is actually a critique precisely of that "brand of modern feminism."

"I emphasize that this is not what the filmmaker believes. Rather, it’s a nod toward what the film maker might believe about real world gender relations. "

I think that you're right, that's not what the filmmaker believes, but rather than a "nod toward," is actually a satire/critique of what the filmmaker thinks other people think about real world gender relations. When you actually walk through the movie, all the statements that characters make that fit that "brand of modern feminism" are actually undermined by the events in the story. Sure, at no point does a thinly veiled stand-in for the director break the fourth wall and make that critique of "obviously Barbie isn't a fascist, who would think that?" but the film implicitly does it in a way that can't possibly be an accident. If I were posting this on Marginal Revolution, I might use the term "Straussian."

Even the long speech the real-world mom - about the demands on women - gives to Barbie is full of items that are not "things imposed on women by men" and even though the shallow context of the scene makes it seem like it might be - it's more of an intra-woman debate.

At the end of the movie, it very much stands up for the conservative idea that, contra that "brand of modern feminism", that there are actual real-world differences (but certainly that they don't lock anyone into anything) between men and women (what is the first thing the director shows the character that is an "non-human idea" doing when she actually becomes a real human?), that ideas and aspirations and themes in movies, toys or media should not replace the real world practical dreams and needs of real humans, and the by-far most strongly implied message: that the human parental impulse (theoretically rejected in the opening 2001-parody, and implicitly by Mattel's/everyone's revulsion of "Midge") is actually vastly more meaningful than anything else in the movie? After all, who are the people and relationships who actually matter in this movie? The real world mom and her daughter. Barbie and Ken and their feelings and relationships don't actually matter, they're just ideas - they only matter how they reflect into the real world (explicitly outlined by the mom's thoughts directly affecting idea-Barbie)

What is the most important, climactic scene in the movie, where the director really DOES insert a stand-in for their voice? A mother/God/Geppetto literally breathes life into the clay of (giving birth to) their non-human created idea, giving them true human/woman life - and with the explicitly listed-by-the-camera necessary traits of: exhalation, heartbeat, attachments to friends/family, acceptance of the need to grapple with mundane reality and.... visits to the gynecologist's office.

I'm not a member of that "brand of modern feminism" - or social conservatism. But I have eyes, and I can see where the movie lands.

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I appreciate the sentiment of this post, but these examples/arguments are hardly convincing. You say "I do not live in a "men rule" world. All I need to do is look around me to see women in positions of authority." and then a few sentences later use "women now make up about 55% of law school students, 38% of practicing attorneys, and 22% of equity partners" as an example of that...from my perspective 55% of students --> 22% of equity partners is actually quite a terrible example of what you are trying to prove. Regardless of the reasons for this (I'm guessing we would actually agree on them), this example doesn't help your argument. You also just cherry pick examples of women in leadership positions...is it supposed to be impressive that the UK (and 2 other countries you listed!) has, at some points in the past, elected a female leader?

Additionally, you write: "Barbie’s description of Mattel itself is somewhat off the mark. When you watch the film, the executives are all depicted as men with one exception". You then go on to talk about how the board of Mattel actually includes women, and then finally come back to "To be completely fair, Barbie has a more accurate depiction if you stick to the executive leadership, where only the human resources director is female". They WERE sticking to executive leadership in the movie, so not sure why you went on the tangent about the board at all. At least you came back to disprove your own point.

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