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Sebastian Garren's avatar

Nice conversation! Many arguments about selfishness have this problem of goalpost moving. Inclusive fitness gets pinned as a form of selfishness. One-off cooperation in prisoner's dilemma-like situations get called "misfires of inclusive fitness." But the sheer quantity of these "misfires" is ridiculous. The strength of social desirability bias hinges on a desire for cooperation even when punishment for defectors is weak or nonexistent. Are enlightened people "selfish"? It seems they have both a more expansive view of self as well as a more expansive view of what is good. At some point, the word selfish seems to become a useless descriptor.

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Matt Ball's avatar

This looks great. Discovering and internalizing evolutionary psychology really changed my life. "The Moral Animal" by Robert Wright is the best, IMO.

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